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[Mackus]

I don’t see how the fielding slump that Gunnar had or Urias’ declining defense are on Hyde.

Booting a ground ball isn't on the coach, but allowing an infield single because you didn't get to a routine grounder quickly enough (like Urias did last week) is something that coaching and player leadership should be able to prevent. With all of this, the frequency determines if it's one bad moment which always happens in a long season or if it's a systemic issue of focus.

I don't think any of Gunnar's errors are due to lack of focus or anything a different manager could help with. But I do think every tweener flyball that's fallen in or barely been caught is something that a manager should be able to clean up.

[jamesdean]

Hyde's going to be here through at least the rest of the season and probably next year too.  In other words, you're preaching to the choir. 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

If this team plays .500ish ball the last 3+ months, flames out early in the playoffs and Hyde is retained then Elias starts getting real heat from me. Especially if things are mediocre to bad to start next year. At what point is it not obvious that the roster has climaxed under his watch.

[RichardZ]

Booting a ground ball isn't on the coach, but allowing an infield single because you didn't get to a routine grounder quickly enough (like Urias did last week) is something that coaching and player leadership should be able to prevent. With all of this, the frequency determines if it's one bad moment which always happens in a long season or if it's a systemic issue of focus.
I don't think any of Gunnar's errors are due to lack of focus or anything a different manager could help with. But I do think every tweener flyball that's fallen in or barely been caught is something that a manager should be able to clean up.

Urias has plenty of experience. He shouldn’t need a coach or manager to tell him he has to know the speed of the runner and account for that. He’s not a rookie. I’m not sure what else you could do besides bench him for that. I mean, what would you do to prevent it?

[RichardZ]

If this team plays .500ish ball the last 3+ months, flames out early in the playoffs and decides to keep Hyde then Elias starts getting real heat from me. Especially if things are mediocre to bad to start next year. At what point is it not obvious that the roster has climaxed under his watch.

Scary! I’ve gotten heat from you. It’s not pleasant.

[Mackus]

Urias has plenty of experience. He shouldn’t need a coach or manager to tell him he has to know the speed of the runner and account for that. He’s not a rookie. I’m not sure what else you could do besides bench him for that. I mean, what would you do to prevent it?

Stressed the importance of not taking any plays easy all along so that it never happened. Get on him and anyone else any time you saw him taking more time than needed even if it didn't cost them the out.

Maye that one play is the learning experience example they needed to point to and can use it to help avoid that particular problem moving forward. But it's definitely an example of a play that was not made because a player didn't stay frosty. Manny would loaf it but always still get the out, I'm not trying to take all style points away, but gotta stay on top of guys so they don't let it cost you things.

[RichardZ]

If this team plays .500ish ball the last 3+ months, flames out early in the playoffs and Hyde is retained then Elias starts getting real heat from me. Especially if things are mediocre to bad to start next year. At what point is it not obvious that the roster has climaxed under his watch.

Does Hyde get any credit if the team has a good September and makes it to the LCS? Or will that just be a case of they won in spite of him?

[RichardZ]

Stressed the importance of not taking any plays easy all along so that it never happened. Get on him and anyone else any time you saw him taking more time than needed even if it didn't cost them the out.
Maye that one play is the learning experience example they needed to point to and can use it to help avoid that particular problem moving forward. But it's definitely an example of a play that was not made because a player didn't stay frosty. Manny would loaf it but always still get the out, I'm not trying to take all style points away, but gotta stay on top of guys so they don't let it cost you things.

I didn’t see that play but I can remember previously, maybe last year, when Urias was not in a hurry and the hitter beat out an almost routine play.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Does Hyde get any credit if the team has a good September and makes it to the LCS? Or will that just be a case of they won in spite of him?

I guess we will see what happens. Hyde is horrible, but if that happens he realistically takes heat off himself.

[RichardZ]

I guess we will see what happens. Hyde is horrible, but if that happens he realistically takes heat off himself.

The heat would be off but he’d still be horrible. That’s what I figured.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

He is horrible. Its baffling how anyone who claims to know baseball cant see it. Or you are related to him

[TwentyThirtyFive]

But you clearly dont want to hold him accountable for anything. Excuse after excuse is all we see. Pretty clear you cant be logical about him.

[RichardZ]

He is horrible. Its baffling how anyone who claims to know baseball cant see it. Or you are related to him

Did someone tell you that you know baseball? Where did you ever get such a crazy idea?

[jamesdean]

I'm sure Elias and Hyde are losing sleep at night wondering how they're being critiqued on BSL.  (LOL) 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Ive seen it all. An oldhead who saw Earl Weaver in his prime and defends Hyde is gonna talk shit. This board is gold Stoner.

[RichardZ]

I'm sure Elias and Hyde are losing sleep at night wondering how they're being critiqued on BSL.  (LOL) 

The heat is on and it might get hotter. We have some self anointed baseball expert who is ready to pounce. Oh my!

[RichardZ]

Ive seen it all. An oldhead who saw Earl Weaver in his prime and defends Hyde is gonna talk shit. This board is gold Stoner.

Oh boy! I’m shaking in my boots. Call Stoner! Hey, if you’re not smart enough to come up with an answer it must be the manager. Can someone get me someone who knows baseball. It sure ain’t this guy.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

You are weird.

[RichardZ]

You are weird.

You’re a twit. I’ll take weird over that.

[You Play to Win the Game]

You are weird.

Definitely. Don't let it get to you. No point in getting riled up over someone who only ever pops in threads and snipes at others.