Photo

2024 Orioles General Talk


  • Please log in to reply
2523 replies to this topic

#1921 Slidemaster

Slidemaster

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,635 posts

Posted 12 June 2024 - 08:14 PM

This situation royally sucks.

God's a Yankees fan.


The Yankees aren't going to play .750 baseball all year. The Rays were the same as the Yankees last year, and they came back to earth too. 162 games is a lot.

#1922 mikezpen

mikezpen
  • Members
  • 233 posts

Posted 15 June 2024 - 10:15 AM

Yeah, but their pitching staff got decimated by injuries too

 

 

sorta like ours



#1923 BaltBird 24

BaltBird 24

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,557 posts

Posted 15 June 2024 - 12:32 PM

Bradish the the 15-day IL with right UCL sprain.

Vespi back up.

#1924 Slidemaster

Slidemaster

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,635 posts

Posted 15 June 2024 - 12:51 PM

Weirdly, I'm still just not that worried. We definitely need to pick up a starting pitcher at the deadline, as well as a reliever, but pitching injuries are just part of baseball now, and the fact that we've been able to have Suarez and Povich step up is a good sign. Bradish certainly isn't going to be the last pitcher this season to go down with a ucl.

It sucks, but they have the ability to make a deal for someone impactful, and I have growing confidence that they will. Hopefully Bradish can get a brace surgery and be ready for spring training next year. In the meantime, it's next man up. This is still a really good team. Nobody's going to feel bad for them. Just find a way.
  • BaltBird 24, dude and russsnyder like this

#1925 BaltBird 24

BaltBird 24

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,557 posts

Posted 15 June 2024 - 01:03 PM

It's never a good sign when you hear he'll be undergoing further testing before deciding on the next step.

#1926 Mashed Potatoes

Mashed Potatoes

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2,045 posts

Posted 15 June 2024 - 08:34 PM

Still can't believe Elias didn't get another starter before the season started.
@DaKittenz

#1927 BSLSteveBirrer

BSLSteveBirrer

    Soccer Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,381 posts
  • LocationMS and ID

Posted 15 June 2024 - 08:58 PM

Still can't believe Elias didn't get another starter before the season started.


Agree. Not like we are using hindsight or that things have gone south.

The facts they knew before ST.
1.Wells didn't finish last season.
2. Means didnt finish last season.
The expectation was that they, at best, were not going to be ready for opening day.
3. Bradish was hurt and they knew coming into ST he too wasn't going to be ready.

They added Burnes which was fantastic but many said at the time we had a lot of IFs coming into ST and needed to do more. We'll here we are. And maybe they really do think that Povich and McD are ready.

The good news is we are in great shape I'm the standings and will still have all our trade chips besides Ortiz and plenty of time for additional moves if the FO thinks good help is available for reasonable cost.
  • Mashed Potatoes likes this

#1928 mdrunning

mdrunning

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,630 posts

Posted 15 June 2024 - 09:11 PM

McDermott has allowed 41 walks in 65 innings and currently has a 1.485 WHIP. That's not going to play at the Major League level.

 

I think we all know that whatever Elias does by the deadline he is not going to let injuries force his hand. 



#1929 Slidemaster

Slidemaster

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,635 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 12:26 PM

Kremer starting his rehab assignment today. Could be back as early as next week.

#1930 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    I Miss McNulty

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 36,043 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 16 June 2024 - 12:44 PM

Kremer starting his rehab assignment today. Could be back as early as next week.


Good news. We need bodies

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#1931 Slidemaster

Slidemaster

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,635 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 02:54 PM

So...given how good Westy is, and Gunnar's meteoric rise, and with Mayo ready in the wings and Norby looking like he belonged in his time up...I might legitimately trade Holliday if I could get a Skubal type in the return.

I'm not down on Holliday, but if they could get a hammer to put with Burnes and Grayson for the playoffs, I think I'm ready.

#1932 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    I Miss McNulty

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 36,043 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 16 June 2024 - 02:55 PM

Trading Holliday starts with a long term cost controlled stud.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#1933 Slidemaster

Slidemaster

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,635 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 02:55 PM


Trading Holliday starts with a long term cost controlled stud.


Skubal has 2.5 years left, and I would try to extend him. Only 27 as I recall.

#1934 jamesdean

jamesdean

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,855 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 03:06 PM

This has nothing to do with the current team but does anyone remember Chris Parmelee?  I have absolutely zero memory of him.  None. I bring it up because on this date in 2015, the Orioles hit 8 homeruns to set a franchise record (since moving to Baltimore) in pounding the Phillies 19-3.  Manny Machado and Parmelee each hit two homeruns.  



#1935 CantonJester

CantonJester

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,396 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 03:09 PM

Skubal has 2.5 years left, and I would try to extend him. Only 27 as I recall.

 

IMO this isn't the time to trade 1:1 longterm control for an elite pitching prospect.


  • BobPhelan likes this

#1936 Slidemaster

Slidemaster

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,635 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 03:11 PM


IMO this isn't the time to trade 1:1 longterm control for an elite pitching prospect.


Skubal is the frontrunner for the AL Cy Young. With him I think the O's become the most dangerous team in the playoffs in a short series, and it keeps their window super wide open in 25 and 26.
  • BSLSteveBirrer likes this

#1937 CantonJester

CantonJester

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,396 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 03:21 PM

Skubal is the frontrunner for the AL Cy Young. With him I think the O's become the most dangerous team in the playoffs in a short series, and it keeps their window super wide open in 25 and 26.

 

Set aside what I said about not trading 1:1 positional talent for pitching for a moment: the O's BP isn't good enough to win it all. 



#1938 Slidemaster

Slidemaster

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,635 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 03:26 PM

Set aside what I said about not trading 1:1 positional talent for pitching for a moment: the O's BP isn't good enough to win it all.


I disagree with that, but acquiring Skubal doesn't preclude them from acquiring a reliever.

#1939 TwentyThirtyFive

TwentyThirtyFive

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,548 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 03:32 PM

I hypothetically threw out a who would you trade Holliday for awhile back. Im just not doing it for a SP. Every arm is a ticking timebomb and you are an injury away from getting maybe 70-100 innings out of Skubal over those 2.5 years. Not the top prospect in baseball. If we need to start with Mayo leading a deal Id consider that. There are levels to all of this

#1940 CantonJester

CantonJester

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,396 posts

Posted 16 June 2024 - 03:34 PM

I disagree with that, but acquiring Skubal doesn't preclude them from acquiring a reliever.

 

It isn't worth the risk. I checked - Skubal's already had a TJS as well as flexor tendon surgery. His career high is 149.1 IP back in '21, and he's already at 86 IP. 

 

I get the love, but I'm not dealing from the top of the deck for that. Especially in today's game. 






2 user(s) are reading this topic

2 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users


    RichardZ, 85Knight

Our Sponsors


 width=