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[makoman]

Ohtani is unlike anything we've had in the last 60-70 years.

 

I don't think anyone else in baseball would draw a crowd like he does.

 

I think whoever signs him to a $600M deal will get their money's worth.

And the Angels had him for 20M posting, 2.3M bonus, 10.4M salary for first 5 years and 30M this year. So 5/32.7 or 6/62.7.

 

Meanwhile, that same off season we got Alex Cobb for 4/57M.

 

I'm sure we had a larger bonus pool than 2.3M since we rarely used it. Not that he would have chosen Baltimore, I imagine he preferred west coast. Yeah that's hindsight, I don't care.

[Mike B]

Ohtani is unlike anything we've had in the last 60-70 years.

 

I don't think anyone else in baseball would draw a crowd like he does.

 

I think whoever signs him to a $600M deal will get their money's worth.

I sat in Section 46 right behind home plate and there seemed to be a lot of Ohtani fans there.  The interesting thing to me, was not all seemed to be Angel fans.   When Wallach hit the homerun there seemed to be very little reaction, but when Ohtani hit his homerun the group erupted. 

I suspect, the same people will be at CY next year when Ohtani comes in with whoever he signs with.

[Mike B]

And the Angels had him for 20M posting, 2.3M bonus, 10.4M salary for first 5 years and 30M this year. So 5/32.7 or 6/62.7.

 

Meanwhile, that same off season we got Alex Cobb for 4/57M.

 

I'm sure we had a larger bonus pool than 2.3M since we rarely used it. Not that he would have chosen Baltimore, I imagine he preferred west coast. Yeah that's hindsight, I don't care.

I talked to a guy last night who seems convinced Ohtani will be wearing Dodger Blue next year.  He thinks the reason the Dodgers did not go big this year in free agency was because they were saving space for Ohtani.

[BSLMikeLowe]

I sat in Section 46 right behind home plate and there seemed to be a lot of Ohtani fans there.  The interesting thing to me, was not all seemed to be Angel fans.   When Wallach hit the homerun there seemed to be very little reaction, but when Ohtani hit his homerun the group erupted. 

I suspect, the same people will be at CY next year when Ohtani comes in with whoever he signs with.

Not to stereotype, but we’re many of them Asian? I remember going to an O’s game in Ichiro’s rookie season and it was the same thing….even with Griffey Jr and ARod before him, I doubt there were that many Mariners fans in the area. The big name players from Japan have huge Japanese-American followings.

[Mike B]

Not to stereotype, but we’re many of them Asian? I remember going to an O’s game in Ichiro’s rookie season and it was the same thing….even with Griffey Jr and ARod before him, I doubt there were that many Mariners fans in the area. The big name players from Japan have huge Japanese-American followings.

Just guessing but I would say about 30%.

[BSLMikeLowe]

Just guessing but I would say about 30%.

Maybe the other 70 were Os fans who forgot who owns the team and thought they’d give him an early welcome to Baltimore.

[Mike B]

The funny part was in the 9th inning, Trout walked to get Ohtani another AB.  Ohtani hit a flair into leftfield that Hays got to quickly.  Trout had no chance to go to third but a young lady was screaming at Trout because he stopped Shohei from getting the double for the cycle.

To earlier points, she was far more Shohei fan than Angel.

[You Play to Win the Game]

The funny part was in the 9th inning, Trout walked to get Ohtani another AB. Ohtani hit a flair into leftfield that Hays got to quickly. Trout had no chance to go to third but a young lady was screaming at Trout because he stopped Shohei from getting the double for the cycle.
To earlier points, she was far more Shohei fan than Angel.

She should be mad at Ohtani for not getting advice from Cedric before the game.

[Mike B]

Maybe the other 70 were Os fans who forgot who owns the team and thought they’d give him an early welcome to Baltimore.

We took the grandkids on Friday night and my son, said the Orioles should invite his kids for free every game and with the money spent on concessions, they could afford Shohei. 

 

I don't think Shohei would help the Orioles.  We would have to play with a 10 man roster, to keep the payroll at basement level. 

[makoman]

We took the grandkids on Friday night and my son, said the Orioles should invite his kids for free every game and with the money spent on concessions, they could afford Shohei. 

 

I don't think Shohei would help the Orioles.  We would have to play with a 10 man roster, to keep the payroll at basement level. 

Hey now, 25 minimum players is under 20M, so we could probably afford another 40M. 

 

3/120M, can't go too long for pitchers.

[BSLRoseKatz]

I talked to a guy last night who seems convinced Ohtani will be wearing Dodger Blue next year.  He thinks the reason the Dodgers did not go big this year in free agency was because they were saving space for Ohtani.

Yeah I think there's a pretty common theory and I'd guess it'll end up being correct 

[Mike B]

Yeah I think there's a pretty common theory and I'd guess it'll end up being correct 

Better there I guess than NY or Boston.   

 

Maybe Elias and JA are preparing that wow offer.  

[dude]

Yeah I think there's a pretty common theory and I'd guess it'll end up being correct 

 

If I had to bet anything, I'm taking the Dodgers.  The only other thing I could see is him making a trek to the East Coast and taking some obscene contract from Steve Cohen.  It's not going to be Yankees or RedSox.  It's not Cubs or WhiteSox.

 

If they need something the Dodgers aren't willing to do (I think they have perceived, not real limits) and he doesn't want the East Coast (if he does, he'll be a Met) then the Giants have 100M they couldn't spend last year and the Mariners probably make the play they tried originally.

 

It's not going to be the Orioles but nearly every team has things they need help with to get their roster aligned for something like that.  Be THAT team.  Make yourself better by helping someone else align against their goals.

[BSLMikeLowe]

I wouldn't rule out the Giants. If they were ready to give Judge $360M, they might be willing to come up with more for Ohtani, especially if the alternative is him playing for their rival. And not sure how much it matters to him, but he would still get to stay on the west coast.

[jamesdean]

Despite the landfill of money Ohtani will get from whoever, teams have to remember that it doesn't guarantee a World Championship. Sure, they'll feed off his aura and popularity in a financial frenzy but the ultimate goal can be elusive.  Just ask the Angels.  Hell, he hasn't even made them that competitive, let alone getting them to the post season.  If the Dodgers do sign him, how much better can they be than last year?  So, I think if teams are having World Series rings dancing around in their heads, they better remember that they still have to do it on the field.