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#601 Mackus

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 12:41 PM

Law of averages!



#602 makoman

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 12:42 PM

33 feels more likely than 13, but the Bengals have only hit 33+ four times this year and one of those was the TB game when they had 4 turnovers leading to points.  Only held under 20 three times though, so agree that a big number is more likely. 

 

I'm hoping we find a way to score 20.  Maybe its ST, defensive score, or short field that helps get there, or maybe the offense just finally stops playing terribly (more plausible if Lamar is back).  If we can get 20, then I think its close to a coinflip that the defense can hold them under that.

 

At least until the end.  Still don't have much faith that the defense won't give up another TD after holding them to 16 or 17 through 58 minutes.

We've held them to 20 twice (ignoring the defensive TD last week). Get to 20 and you have a chance. Unfortunately that hasn't happened without Lamar. Can't be kicking a bunch of 24 yard FGs. 



#603 Tranquil1

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 01:40 PM

Kick FG's every time you're within range if it's 4th down. That's the smart thing to do.



#604 NewMarketSean

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 01:53 PM

Without turnovers, there's no way the Bengals are going to be held to 13 points.  It's probably more realistic to add 20 to that total. 


Probably. But we held them to 17 points earlier this year without Smith.

 

Anything can happen. Unfortunately we're going to need the unexpected to happen for us to even have a chance if Lamar is out.


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#605 Steve55

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 02:52 PM

I think a lot of this back-and-forth debate on being either run or pass heavy is personal biases relative to age.  The younger posters on here are going to prefer Lamar or the backups throw the ball a lot, which is more in tune to the type of offenses prevalent in the league now.  I get it.  I'm a little bit older, more impressed with a great running attack and love to see it enforced on teams.  With that said, you have to utilize what your strengths are, dependent how the offense has been constructed.  For some bizarre reason, Roman creates this amazing, complex run game and then doesn't seem to believe in his own system.  It reminds me of people who go on a diet and start working out for the first time.  They do great in the first couple of weeks, they're motivated, see that the plan is working and start to believe in themselves.  Then after a few weeks and the progress begins to plateau, they lose interest, they panic, they think there has to be a better way because now the results depend on self-discipline and fortitude to keep at it.  Why on earth would Roman think Brown throwing the ball 44 times was the answer to winning the game?  Did he or Harbaugh even care whether they won or not? I sure wonder sometimes.  If ever there was a time to run the ball all day, it was Sunday.  So, they only get 2 or 3 yards on some carries?  Did they stop giving Barry Sanders the ball after he could only get a couple of yards or even no gain?  If you know Dobbins and Edwards can break 15-20 yard runs, then you have to get beyond the ones where they don't.  Maybe you have to punt sometimes. So what?  You've eaten up clock, you keep the opposition in a long field, and you let the defense do its job.  No, it's not pretty, it's not exciting for most but do you want the team to win or don't you?  I can tell you this much- if they don't run the ball at least 40 times this Sunday night, they have ZERO chance of winning.  None.  The ratio with this offense the way it's currently assembled should never deviate from 40 rushes to 20 passes.  If they completely deconstruct this roster, get a quarterback who has a great arm, throws with uncanny accuracy,  has receivers who don't drop balls, get consistent YAC and score touchdowns, then I'll be all for a pass heavy offense.  Until that happens, if you want the team to win, you run until you can't run anymore. 

 

 

Look back at the 2nd half of the TB game. Roman had it all working, but it still took a few short passes turned into 10 yrd gains to keep drives going. I'm sure Brown is his 1st NFL start was jittery. It showed in the overthrow int. The 2nd was a catchable ball. He did seem to get more confidence as the game went on. If Watkins doesn't have the ball stripped and we score, there was still time to make a stop & get the ball back.

 

Did Harbaugh care if they won or lost .? He sat a bunch of starters. How would the team handle beating the Bengals twice & losing a coin flip when they knew beating them should have won the division.



#606 jamesdean

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 03:35 PM

Look back at the 2nd half of the TB game. Roman had it all working, but it still took a few short passes turned into 10 yrd gains to keep drives going. I'm sure Brown is his 1st NFL start was jittery. It showed in the overthrow int. The 2nd was a catchable ball. He did seem to get more confidence as the game went on. If Watkins doesn't have the ball stripped and we score, there was still time to make a stop & get the ball back.

 

Did Harbaugh care if they won or lost .? He sat a bunch of starters. How would the team handle beating the Bengals twice & losing a coin flip when they knew beating them should have won the division.

Of course you have to throw the ball sometimes.  20 passes is more than enough for this team to be productive and move the chains. They're not going to have any homerun balls from 70 yards.  They just don't have anyone who can take it to the house like that.  But if you don't punish a team with your best weapons which are Edwards and Dobbins(and Lamar when he's playing) legs, it's just counterproductive and frankly, stupid.  And that's why Roman will be out of a job a month from now. 



#607 Mike B

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 03:43 PM

Without LJ and possibly without Huntley and Edwards the running game is not likely to be what we have become accustomed too.  I don't think we will be able to sustain anything just running the ball.

Let's be honest, the chance of winning without those guys is going to be difficult.


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#608 JStruds

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 04:00 PM

Without LJ and possibly without Huntley and Edwards the running game is not likely to be what we have become accustomed too. I don't think we will be able to sustain anything just running the ball.
Let's be honest, the chance of winning without those guys is going to be difficult.


Difficult is a mild choice of words. Because of the likely lineup, I'm not nearly as pissed off as I was about the wedding I need to attend Sunday.

#609 jamesdean

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 04:10 PM

Without LJ and possibly without Huntley and Edwards the running game is not likely to be what we have become accustomed too.  I don't think we will be able to sustain anything just running the ball.

Let's be honest, the chance of winning without those guys is going to be difficult.

What that really means is Roman won't be able to sustain running the ball.  That's why they'll lose.  And they'll lose big. 



#610 BaltBird 24

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 05:18 PM

Difficult is a mild choice of words. Because of the likely lineup, I'm not nearly as pissed off as I was about the wedding I need to attend Sunday.


Losing with Huntley or Brown under center is no big deal at all. I won't even be mad. Disappointed our made of glass QB couldn't finish another season healthy while expecting a record contract.
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#611 JStruds

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 06:17 PM

Losing with Huntley or Brown under center is no big deal at all. I won't even be mad. Disappointed our made of glass QB couldn't finish another season healthy while expecting a record contract.


His gamble may have failed spectacularly.
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#612 Slidemaster

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 06:28 PM


His gamble may have failed spectacularly.


Nah. Somebody will pay him what he wants. It just won't be Baltimore.
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#613 jamesdean

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 07:15 PM

Nah. Somebody will pay him what he wants. It just won't be Baltimore.

And why do I think they'll regret it? 



#614 Slidemaster

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 07:31 PM

And why do I think they'll regret it?


I think whoever signs him will be loving their lives for about 10-12 games of his first season.

I think he'll be slightly above league average by age 28.

I think he'll be below league average by 32.

I suppose it depends on the deal.

#615 TwentyThirtyFive

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Posted 11 January 2023 - 07:43 PM


Losing with Huntley or Brown under center is no big deal at all. I won't even be mad. Disappointed our made of glass QB couldn't finish another season healthy while expecting a record contract.

Made of glass. Here we go with this BS.
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