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[hallas]

He's been pretty electric so far. 2 GS, 12 innings, 15 Ks to 2 BBs, no runs allowed.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

He's been pretty electric so far. 2 GS, 12 innings, 15 Ks to 2 BBs, no runs allowed.

Bowie is calling

[BSLBobPhelan]

Promoted to AA Bowie.

[Mackus]

Excited to see what he can do at Bowie.  Hard to do any better than he did in his two A+ starts here.

[hallas]

There is no shot this guy ends up in the 20s on the prospect rankings once the offseason hits and analysts start re-evaluating. So far he looks like he should be ranked in the low-teens for the Os, and you could make the argument that he could go higher.

His Bowie debut was pretty successful. 5 IP, 2 ER, 6 K 2 BB.

[Mackus]

Teens in our system is about where everyone here discussed him as being.  It's a pick-em between he and Rom, IMO.  If Povich's velocity increase is true and sustainable, he edges ahead.  A big final two months can of course change a lot, so if he pitches really well while here (especially after moving up to Bowie) then that moves him up in a way that he wouldn't have been regarded at the time of the trade.  

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Teens in our system is about where everyone here discussed him as being.  It's a pick-em between he and Rom, IMO.  If Povich's velocity increase is true and sustainable, he edges ahead.  A big final two months can of course change a lot, so if he pitches really well while here (especially after moving up to Bowie) then that moves him up in a way that he wouldn't have been regarded at the time of the trade.  

Wouldn't have been regarded  from our perspective as outsiders. Its pretty clear he had helium at the time of the trade

[Mackus]

Wouldn't have been regarded  from our perspective as outsiders. Its pretty clear he had helium at the time of the trade

 

-Ok I'll buy that.  But I won't ever agree that he was enough to be the bulk of the return for Lopez considering the importance of the final months of this season and the two more years of control.  He'd need to be ahead of Stowers and Westburg for that and he just isn't.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

-Ok I'll buy that.  But I won't ever agree that he was enough to be the bulk of the return for Lopez considering the importance of the final months of this season and the two more years of control.  He'd need to be ahead of Stowers and Westburg for that and he just isn't.

 I dont know that I disagree unless there is helium in one of the other guys we got back. I did prefer to keep the  high leverage guys in our BP intact.

[Mike B]

I am not trying to rehash the trades again, we have beat them to death, but I think Elias even tried to sell the return he got for Jorge to the fan base.  He referred to Povich as a potential TOR guy..  I guess you can label a lot of prospects that way, but it does not feel like anyone else feels that way.

[hallas]

I am not trying to rehash the trades again, we have beat them to death, but I think Elias even tried to sell the return he got for Jorge to the fan base.  He referred to Povich as a potential TOR guy..  I guess you can label a lot of prospects that way, but it does not feel like anyone else feels that way.

 

I think you have to read between the lines a bit when listening to the smoke that Elias was blowing.  The impression I got from Elias was that he figured Povich as someone who had a good chance of being a #2/3 starter on a playoff team, with an outside shot at being the best starter on said team.  That certainly didn't jive with the prospect reports at the time, which largely didn't account for his increased velocity or his 12 K/9 and 4:1 K/BB ratio.

 

 

-Ok I'll buy that.  But I won't ever agree that he was enough to be the bulk of the return for Lopez considering the importance of the final months of this season and the two more years of control.  He'd need to be ahead of Stowers and Westburg for that and he just isn't.

I'm with you here - I'm still mildly against this trade.  But Stowers is currently ranked 9 on MLB's prospect list and there's an outside shot that with a good showing in Bowie he could end up in that ballpark.