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#81 Oriole85

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

You'll notice Kupchak was the one at the news conference, not Buss. Buss has been more accessible to reporters lately, coming off the Lakers' triumphant summer, but whenever things go bad in Lakerland his is never the first voice you hear.
Straight out of the Peter Angelos ownership manual.

That's Jimmy Buss NOT Jerry Buss to clarify, Jim=Louis Angelos. I wish the Angelos tenure was a fraction of the success though that the Buss' have had.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:21 AM

That's Jimmy Buss NOT Jerry Buss to clarify, Jim=Louis Angelos. I wish the Angelos tenure was a fraction of the success though that the Buss' have had.

I know, just noting the disappearing act when things are rough is Angelos like.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:09 AM

I know, just noting the disappearing act when things are rough is Angelos like.

I don't think it's that comparable, Angelos has never seeked the limelight and been out there. His inaccessibility and lack of transparency is one of my biggest gripes about him. He appeared in O's clubhouse after Game 2 and gave a short statement after Game 5. I don't think that really qualifies.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:13 AM

I don't think it's that comparable, Angelos has never seeked the limelight and been out there. His inaccessibility and lack of transparency is one of my biggest gripes about him. He appeared in O's clubhouse after Game 2 and gave a short statement after Game 5. I don't think that really qualifies.

Fair enough and my apologies for bringing Peter into this thread.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:24 AM

The Lakers have hired D'Antoni as their next coach. It looks like the talks with Phil Jackson broke down.

http://espn.go.com/l... ... les-lakers
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:58 AM

The Lakers have hired D'Antoni as their next coach. It looks like the talks with Phil Jackson broke down.

http://espn.go.com/l... ... les-lakers

It will be interesting to see if he can get along with Kobe and mesh all that talent.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:49 AM

http://m.espn.go.com...storyId=8622773

It almost sounds like LA actually preferred MD over PJ.

Wow!

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:07 AM

They are talking about this a lot on Mike and Mike.

The Lakers absolutely wanted D'antoni over Jackson.

They felt he was a better fit....that is amazing to me.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:18 AM

Just heard this this AM, I think putting Phil back in charge would've been more risky given the fact he wanted to skip road trips. Add that he wanted the same $$$, more say on basketball decisions on top of his health.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:31 AM

ESPN LA Phil Jackson 'stunned,' source says

http://espn.go.com/l...ers-source-says

Jackson and the Lakers had never spoken about a salary, the source said, "but he knew coaches don't make what he used to make anymore." He also never intended to miss any more road games than he had in his previous stints with the Lakers.

Not sure how true that is, now that it is being said after the fact. I think Phil may have overplayed his hand on this one.

However, Jackson had wanted more say over basketball decisions, another source said.

The Los Angeles Times reported that Jackson was also seeking an ownership stake, according to a person familiar with the situation.

I could be wrong on this, but I believe coaches are NOT allowed to have ownership stakes. I know players aren't -- MJ/Magic had to divest when they returned.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:49 AM

ESPN LA Phil Jackson 'stunned,' source says

http://espn.go.com/l...ers-source-says


Not sure how true that is, now that it is being said after the fact. I think Phil may have overplayed his hand on this one.


I could be wrong on this, but I believe coaches are NOT allowed to have ownership stakes. I know players aren't -- MJ/Magic had to divest when they returned.

All of that stuff was bs...The Lakers and Phil said that it wasn't true.

End of the day, the lakers actually feel that MD is the best choice.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:57 AM

All of that stuff was bs...The Lakers and Phil said that it wasn't true.

End of the day, the lakers actually feel that MD is the best choice.

I think it played a part, the Lakers/Phil can say whatever they want, doesn't mean it's true.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 11:12 AM

Gross.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 11:22 AM

I think it played a part, the Lakers/Phil can say whatever they want, doesn't mean it's true.

Why would the Lakers lie about it? There is no incentive for them too.

Just because it was reported, doesn't mean its true.

Both sides said Phil didn't ask for all of the reported incentives. I can see why Phil's side would lie about it but not the Lakers.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:35 PM

I feel like the Lakers are on their way to becoming the Celtics of the early 00's. Just give it another 3 years before they hit rock bottom.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

I feel like the Lakers are on their way to becoming the Celtics of the early 00's. Just give it another 3 years before they hit rock bottom.

Bad hire by not taking Jackson back in my eyes. D'antoni does not utilize his bigs, so Howard will go ignored most likely. His style plays no defense, which is what Howard does best. I think this is a mistake, and I agree with you. I believe they aren't far away from hitting rock bottom.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

Bad hire by not taking Jackson back in my eyes. D'antoni does not utilize his bigs, so Howard will go ignored most likely. His style plays no defense, which is what Howard does best. I think this is a mistake, and I agree with you. I believe they aren't far away from hitting rock bottom.

Amare says you are wrong.

They have the perfect mix of players for his offense.

But the lack of defense is a huge issue.

When Howard re-signs, they will be in good shape long term...players always want to go to LA.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:00 PM

Amare says you are wrong.

They have the perfect mix of players for his offense.

But the lack of defense is a huge issue.

When Howard re-signs, they will be in good shape long term...players always want to go to LA.

Big difference between Amare and Dwight.
Dwight posts up, Amare is not beginning to learn how to get better with posting up. D'antoni wants underneath the basket cleared out, which is where Dwight Howard plays. Amare can shoot a mid-range shot, Dwight can not. Big difference there.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:09 PM

Big difference between Amare and Dwight.
Dwight posts up, Amare is not beginning to learn how to get better with posting up. D'antoni wants underneath the basket cleared out, which is where Dwight Howard plays. Amare can shoot a mid-range shot, Dwight can not. Big difference there.

Ehhh, Howard also likes to run.

He is a quick, athletic big man.

He will still post up some but could now be used more in pick and rolls and things like that.

They aren't going to being in a coach that they don't think Howard will like....they are hoping to re-sign him and have him be the piece to build around for years to come.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:03 PM

I guess Nash and Kobe combined with the fact that Phil would be leaving after next year (thus starting another coaching search) led them to wanting D'Antoni.

This is certainly not the end of the Lakers, though. They will have a max contract for Dwight to build around which quite clearly is more than the Celtics had before this current era.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

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