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#1 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 30 May 2022 - 08:36 AM

MASN: Three nagging questions about the Orioles

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Posted 30 May 2022 - 01:07 PM

Q1) I think it depends how you define 'trade chip'.  Odor has been a surprise and there's certainly some value in how he's played on the field and the emerging consideration off it...but guys that go to the bottom in terms of perception rarely come back with significant value.  Other teams know where the floor is, you were there recently.  Hard to rebuild that, especially in such a short time.

 

That said, it would be good to see Westburg in Baltimore at 2B in September and that likely means he doesn't really have a role so if you want to do something else...there's value to that for him too....get involved in something a little more meaningful than the current projection in Baltimore.

 

The WhiteSox stand out as a team that could use the help.  2B OPS is 28th in MLB and they don't have guys pushing for the roster.

 

A couple of DSL kids seems like about the best you'd reasonably do.  Could you push to get a guy at the back of the CWS top 30 like 2021 draftee (18-545) Adam Hackenberg?  Maybe that could seem reasonable. 

 

I know we're not allowed to discuss things like this, but the Orioles are stacking up 2B with no-where to go.  Westburg (as a 2B), Varva, Prieto and Norby all have interesting profiles, but they are all towards the top of the system and everyone can't play for you.

 

If you wanted to package (pick one, let go with...) Cesar Prieto (later) with Odor (now) you can make a more interesting deal.

 

Tanner McDougal has an interesting profile (big RHed kid, 2021/5-155) and interestingly his dad got to AAA in Baltimore's system.  If you included Hackenburg and a DSL kid, that still feels light with Prieto being the best player in the trade (higher rated in a better system).  Maybe include another big (6'6") RHer out of the 2021 draft like Sean Burke (3-94)?

 

Do the WhiteSox value the 3rd, 5th and 18th picks out of last years draft more than Odor for now and Prieto for later? 

I don't know, but it's worth asking.



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Posted 30 May 2022 - 01:24 PM

Stop with the Odor has any trade value stuff



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Posted 30 May 2022 - 01:33 PM

Q2) I'm not sure there is a 1QMVO, but whatever.  Akin has been great.

 

Reliever performance will be volatile with limited innings, but this is a good year to be effective over multiple innings each time out, given the state (Innings) of the starters.

 

You'd like to fix that eventually, but it's not where we are today and that's more than just Orioles but all of the League-wide challenges since 2020 (COVID-Lockout)

 

Having good long-guys can add value and if he settles into that role, great.  Of course he wants to start because there's more money for starters, but there's less money at AAA so there's roles and time for him today.

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.....but I like to look at draft position, All-Time.  It's crazy that if you just pick a guy that's in the Majors, he's likely one of the better draft picks at that spot....enjoy pick #54.

 

Since 2007, we see some familiar names at #54....Tommy Hunter (2007, 11.8 WAR) and Mychal Givens (2009, 8.3 WAR) and the Brewers selected RP standout Devin Williams (2013, 3.0 WAR) also.  That's interesting company...but wait...there's more...

 

from 1991 to 1997 you also had (Kevin Stocker (1991, 5.9 WAR), Brett Tomko (1995, 10.7 WAR) and Randy Wolf (1997, 22.8 WAR) so it'll be tough for Keegan to even be the best LHP selected at #54.

 

....but there's more history at #54...1968 Lamar Johnson (5.9 WAR), 1977 Scott Sanderson (27.7 WAR - leader at #54), 1982 Steve Ontiveros (8.6 WAR) and 1983 Glenn Braggs (5.8 WAR)....that's a lot of production from pick number 54.

 

Then you have a related Oriole connection in 1970 with Jerry Hairston's dad, Jerry Hairston (6.2 WAR).

 

Since 1965, 10 players with more than 5.8 WAR and Devin Williams will join them.  Hopefully Keegan will too.



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Posted 30 May 2022 - 01:37 PM

Q3) Yes.






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