Puts a new perspective on the Brown trade too.
Stanley done for the year
#22
Posted 19 October 2021 - 04:19 PM
Puts a new perspective on the Brown trade too.
I think Oweh will help soften that blow.
#23
Posted 19 October 2021 - 04:25 PM
I think Oweh will help soften that blow.
He's done well. You can argue they lose the KC game if they don't make the trade and have Brown instead of Oweh (no one to force the fumble at the end). I think you can make just as good a case that they win in Las Vegas if they're playing Brown instead of Villanueva.
The other thing to remember is that without the trade they also still have their own 2nd Round pick, which might have produced another impact player. Ultimately, it's all what-ifs and speculation, nothing more than message board filler.
#24
Posted 19 October 2021 - 05:28 PM
Obviously things can change between now and the draft next year, but I'm hoping they take two offensive linemen and an inside linebacker within their first four picks. I've seen enough of Queen.
I'd love to see them draft another good cornerback as well.
#25
Posted 19 October 2021 - 05:59 PM
There is literally no other choice here. They pretty much have no choice but to play it out through the next TWO years.
If they cut him after 2021 this season they'd still have to pay him his full 2022 salary. And even if they used a post June 1 designation and could split up the hit, it would be $18.5M in dead money in 2022 and another $22.6M in dead money in 2023.
If he retires the fully guaranteed salary goes away and his 22 number is only 9. Otherwise yes. Thank you ravens salary cap guy.
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#26
Posted 19 October 2021 - 06:23 PM
#27
Posted 19 October 2021 - 06:38 PM
Hollywood has one more cheap year and then would be on a 5th year option for $13M (would go up to close to $17M if he makes a Pro Bowl) which isn't too crazy for a solid WR. I don't think they sign him long term. He's a guy that will get shorted since we decided to take care of Lamar, Stanley, Humphrey and now Andrews. Totally fine with that approach, especially if Bateman, Proche, and Duvernay continue to look good.
They can likely afford 1 of Brown or Bateman. Obviously Brown gets expensive sooner than Bateman. If Bateman looks the part I expect Brown to go in FA.
#28
Posted 19 October 2021 - 06:39 PM
You drafted him, you developed him, you paid him. He tried to and did come back from last years injury and surgery, and then when he reinjured it, he tried to rehab it as long as possible to avoid another surgery.
So long as Stanley has a good eventual medical prognosis, and still wants to play, you stick with him.
I'm not a doctor, but assuming it can get fixed properly, I don't see any reason why he still couldn't be a really good LT.
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#29
Posted 19 October 2021 - 06:41 PM
What are the odds of retirement? Probably fairly slim. Are we better off with him retiring and finding a replacement or trying to hang on and regain his previous form?
Hopefully its not so serious that its career threatening. Obviously a 2nd surgery isnt good but Im not sure we are in a spot to think he wont be able to return or be a shell of his former self.
#30
Posted 19 October 2021 - 06:44 PM
No, you stick by him unless medically it isn't advisable IMO.
You drafted him, you developed him, you paid him. He tried to and did come back from last years injury and surgery, and then when he reinjured it, he tried to rehab it as long as possible to avoid another surgery.
So long as Stanley has a good eventual medical prognosis, and still wants to play, you stick with him.
I'm not a doctor, but assuming it can get fixed properly, I don't see any reason why he still couldn't be a really good LT.
Yeah, at this point Im still looking forward to him being a good LT. Obviously, that could change if we get more in depth news on the injury or any issues with the surgery and recovery.
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#31
Posted 19 October 2021 - 08:15 PM
No, you stick by him unless medically it isn't advisable IMO.
You drafted him, you developed him, you paid him. He tried to and did come back from last years injury and surgery, and then when he reinjured it, he tried to rehab it as long as possible to avoid another surgery.
So long as Stanley has a good eventual medical prognosis, and still wants to play, you stick with him.
I'm not a doctor, but assuming it can get fixed properly, I don't see any reason why he still couldn't be a really good LT.
You are assuming it was reinjured. We don’t know. It might not have been right and he didn’t know until he got into real game action.
I’m not saying it’s likely, but it’s possible he’s never quite right again and he walks away. Lots of rumors that he isn’t as passionate about football as some. Which I think rules but might factor in.
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#32
Posted 19 October 2021 - 08:36 PM
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#33
Posted 19 October 2021 - 08:42 PM
Thanks for the info. Damn.You are assuming it was reinjured. We don’t know. It might not have been right and he didn’t know until he got into real game action.
I’m not saying it’s likely, but it’s possible he’s never quite right again and he walks away. Lots of rumors that he isn’t as passionate about football as some. Which I think rules but might factor in.
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#34
Posted 20 October 2021 - 02:49 PM
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