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[Slidemaster]

Just the Orioles being the Orioles.

[Mike B]

There, IMo, is still something missing about the firing.  He got fired  for posting about a Ravens game.   It just does not add up..  The Ravens lost in January and you wait to fire Wagner until April.  

Why would the Orioles care that he was mad about the Ravens losing.

[Old Man]

There, IMo, is still something missing about the firing.  He got fired  for posting about a Ravens game.   It just does not add up..  The Ravens lost in January and you wait to fire Wagner until April.  

Why would the Orioles care that he was mad about the Ravens losing.

Regardless of why.

 

The Orioles are within their rights to fire him.

 

They did it, in a very unprofessional and tacky way. But thats the business world for you, sometimes they just dont give a crap about the individuals.

[Nigel Tufnel]

There, IMo, is still something missing about the firing.  He got fired  for posting about a Ravens game.   It just does not add up..  The Ravens lost in January and you wait to fire Wagner until April.  

Why would the Orioles care that he was mad about the Ravens losing.

 

It sounds like he got fired because he was warned not to post about other teams after his Ravens tweets, he then posted about the Yankees, and instead of being contrite was all "screw you, don't tell me how to fan."

[BSLChrisStoner]

There, IMo, is still something missing about the firing.  He got fired  for posting about a Ravens game.   It just does not add up..  The Ravens lost in January and you wait to fire Wagner until April.  

Why would the Orioles care that he was mad about the Ravens losing.

 

First time he would have been in-person. So they waited until he was on premises, and he signed an NDA, and that was that.

[dude]

First time he would have been in-person. So they waited until he was on premises, and he signed an NDA, and that was that.

 

I'm sorry I don't buy the earlier explanation of NDA.  If it's a non-public fact, cool.

 

....but you don't say "Hey, we're firing you, if you sign an NDA, we'll give you an extra $500" and have anyone take you seriously.  The guy can't make that much money, what are they going to give him?

 

...if he shows up and they say "Hey, we're making everyone sign an NDA as a (new) condition of employment", OK, they can do that, but that wouldn't legally cover anything that happened or was perceived to happen prior to signing it.

 

Personally, I believe in a business's right to manage their business any way they choose...there's certainly exceptions for that when it comes to public money and you could maybe argue MLB Teams are in a grey area with conditions like the anti-trust exemption, but if they don't want him, fine, they don't have to employ him.

 

If you want to have internal policies about certain conduct (especially in the public space) then great, people should understand the condition of their employment, but how hard would it be for the guy to build a dummy account to express his views away from his in-name account.

 

...but it's easy to just assume this Organization is always wrong because they literally have no Leadership Talent.  They are a hugely underperforming group (as a MLB team) and don't have accomplishments (any real level of Talent success) on their resumes in their lifetimes.  They haven't earned a single thing through merit, so it's easy to understand why they seem so dysfunctional when they are put in the decision making spot-light. Hardly the first time.  

 

That doesn't mean they are wrong in the this case (we don't know the facts), but the track record is dysfunction, so they've earned the skepticism.

[Mike B]

First time he would have been in-person. So they waited until he was on premises, and he signed an NDA, and that was that.

Yea, but they told him on the phone, at least that is how I understand it.

[DuffMan]

What's resolved first, the mystery of Wagner's firing or the MASN dispute is resolved?

[Mike B]

Regardless of why.

 

The Orioles are within their rights to fire him.

 

They did it, in a very unprofessional and tacky way. But thats the business world for you, sometimes they just dont give a crap about the individuals.

Yea, I agree with this.  They own the ball so to speak and can do what they feel is right, but they seem to lack class in dealing with their employees.