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[BSLChrisStoner]

Maybe there was conference pride for people that actually are fans of a team. You aren't an example of that as far as I know so this seems odd. I don't think there was significant conference pride among players either. So this basically seems like a this is how it's been so this is how it should continue type of deal.

I think plenty of people care more about their favorite player than they do about a conference, so for many, the current structure adds more meaning. Rooting for LeBron or Durant, or if there's not a big preference there, your other favorite players, is plenty meaningful for a game that at the end of the day is much more fun than serious.

The draft itself though is way more interesting than what existed prior and then the game is what it is.

They've tried something else. People seem to like it just fine. That's cool, NBA is a business and should do what the majority of their fans like. I'm just not one of them.

[mweb08]

They've tried something else. People seem to like it just fine. That's cool, NBA is a business and should do what the majority of their fans like. I'm just not one of them.

Yes, because of conferences! Lol

[BSLChrisStoner]

Yes, because of conferences! Lol

Yes, that's correct.

I'm sorry my opinion doesn't match yours. What would you like me to say?

[mweb08]

Yes, that's correct.

I'm sorry my opinion doesn't match yours. What would you like me to say?

I mean this ain't important, but in more important matters I wish people could do a better job of recognizing how much "this is how's it's always been" and "this is what I grew up with" plays into their thinking rather than working backwards to try to figure out how to explain one's thoughts. That's what conference pride and it used to be more meaningful screams out to me. If we grew up with Magic vs Larry and then MJ vs Magic, and MJ vs Charles/Hakeem/Shaq all-star games, and then recently switched to conferences, I'd bet you'd prefer the old way.

[Old Man]

It must be me, MLB all-star is halfway decent

 

The rest of them, MEH

 

Basically, your stars are putting on an exhibition game.

[BSLChrisStoner]

I mean this ain't important, but in more important matters I wish people could do a better job of recognizing how much "this is how's it's always been" and "this is what I grew up with" plays into their thinking rather than working backwards to try to figure out how to explain one's thoughts. That's what conference pride and it used to be more meaningful screams out to me. If we grew up with Magic vs Larry and then MJ vs Magic, and MJ vs Charles/Hakeem/Shaq all-star games, and then recently switched to conferences, I'd bet you'd prefer the old way.

 

Maybe if that was what we grew up with, I'd feel that... but we didn't.  And yes, I liked what we grew up with. 

Your opinion here seems to be, "I like the new format better, so everyone must agree with me."  

And yes, I know you've made the same point in numerous other types of discussions that we need to recognize that what we grew up with, grew accustomed to... isn't always right, and lots of time there is progress to be made. 

I get that larger point you are making.  And that's fine.  As I said, the NBA is a business and if more people prefer the current format (and apparently they do) then they should keep doing this.  I don't have to like it though, right?

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[mweb08]

Maybe if that was what we grew up with, I'd feel that... but we didn't.  And yes, I liked what we grew up with. 

Your opinion here seems to be, "I like the new format better, so everyone must agree with me."  

And yes, I know you've made the same point in numerous other types of discussions that we need to recognize that what we grew up with, grew accustomed to... isn't always right, and lots of time there is progress to be made. 

I get that larger point you are making.  And that's fine.  As I said, the NBA is a business and if more people prefer the current format (and apparently they do) then they should keep doing this.  I don't have to like it though, right?

 

No, that's not my opinion at all. You can of course like what you like. However, as a teacher I like when my students can do a good job justifying their stances, and I don't think conferences in the NBA for a person without a team is a strong justification. Nor is how meaningful the game feels when last year's AS game felt more meaningful than just about any in recent memory (in part due to the Elam ending).

[BSLChrisStoner]

No, that's not my opinion at all. You can of course like what you like. However, as a teacher I like when my students can do a good job justifying their stances, and I don't think conferences in the NBA for a person without a team is a strong justification. Nor is how meaningful the game feels when last year's AS game felt more meaningful than just about any in recent memory (in part due to the Elam ending).

Yep, last year's game was great. No doubt. 

And I don't know how to further justify a feeling.   I liked one format better than another.  

And you are saying I feel that way simply because that's what we grew up on.. which is probably wholly accurate, but I still preferred that. 

Why? Because that's what it was I guess is part of it, and because I enjoyed rooting for the East against the West. 
I guess as you are asking me to dig deeper, I don't like the pickup game feel. It feels gimmicky to me. 

But things change, so.. whatever.  Again, I certainly recognize that the NBA should be doing what the majority wants.
That's listening to their fans. That's a good thing.

Did enjoy LeBron's starting 5, did enjoy watching Curry and Dame.  That was fun.

[mweb08]

That's cool.

You were a big Jordan fan, right? If so, do you think you rooted more for the East due to him or because you lived in the East?

[Old Man]

Yep, last year's game was great. No doubt. 

And I don't know how to further justify a feeling.   I liked one format better than another.  

And you are saying I feel that way simply because that's what we grew up on.. which is probably wholly accurate, but I still preferred that. 

Why? Because that's what it was I guess is part of it, and because I enjoyed rooting for the East against the West. 
I guess as you are asking me to dig deeper, I don't like the pickup game feel. It feels gimmicky to me. 

But things change, so.. whatever.  Again, I certainly recognize that the NBA should be doing what the majority wants.
That's listening to their fans. That's a good thing.

Did enjoy LeBron's starting 5, did enjoy watching Curry and Dame.  That was fun.

The NBA long ago forgot what the dribbling and walking rules was, and its even worse at the ASG, thats a whistle that never gets blown,

[BSLChrisStoner]

Definitely a big Jordan fan. Rooted for the East because we're in the East (even if Baltimore doesn't have a team). Also because in later years the West was loaded and the East was not. Can be a sucker for the underdog.

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Didn't watch it, but it was good to see Beal's box score today. Good for him. 

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It was fun, as always. No more, no less, but always fun for me to see the guys having a good time. 

 

Seeing a certain segment of the population lose their s**t on twitter when they sang "Lift Every Voice and Sing" was fun too, but I know that's a topic for another time. 

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