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#421 Don Olsen

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Posted 21 September 2020 - 11:14 AM

For what I can see as a B- type game, throwing up 33 points on a potential playoff team not playing your best football means this team has greatly improved.

 

They can stop the run with 7 in the box.  They can bait the QB and disguise coverages.  They can pass it deep and with accuracy.  They can run when given the proper blocking.

 

O-Line needs to rework some things, but I believe the wrinkles in the game are present and waiting to expose them to the Chiefs on Monday.  I bet Fluker starts to get an even amount of reps in practice.  Bozeman pulling in the second half and opening holes on off tackle runs is encouraging to see.  Brown had his hands full with Watt, but I also believe it was the lack of maintaining the pocket with Phillips and Skura that caused Brown to look bad.  Ravens would do well getting more into the screen game or shallow crossing routes to negate the defensive line from putting their ears back and fore borne rushing.

 

They picked on Averett, which is nothing new, but last season they picked on Carr.  You always go for the weak link, but that is easy to accomplish between the 20s and tougher to get into the end zone. 

 

Ravens defensive pressure was acceptable, but also realize they were playing a guy that is tough to bring down 1-1.  I was pleased with their ability to collapse the pocket with 4 man rush and at least force Watson to get it out quickly and work off three step drop route trees, or single the hot WR for a short gain.

 

Texans defense didn't roll over and played much better than the opening week against the Chiefs.  I firmly believe this weeks defense is the one teams will routinely see from the Texans.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 11:54 AM

For what I can see as a B- type game, throwing up 33 points on a potential playoff team not playing your best football means this team has greatly improved.

 

They can stop the run with 7 in the box.  They can bait the QB and disguise coverages.  They can pass it deep and with accuracy.  They can run when given the proper blocking.

 

O-Line needs to rework some things, but I believe the wrinkles in the game are present and waiting to expose them to the Chiefs on Monday.  I bet Fluker starts to get an even amount of reps in practice.  Bozeman pulling in the second half and opening holes on off tackle runs is encouraging to see.  Brown had his hands full with Watt, but I also believe it was the lack of maintaining the pocket with Phillips and Skura that caused Brown to look bad.  Ravens would do well getting more into the screen game or shallow crossing routes to negate the defensive line from putting their ears back and fore borne rushing.

 

They picked on Averett, which is nothing new, but last season they picked on Carr.  You always go for the weak link, but that is easy to accomplish between the 20s and tougher to get into the end zone. 

 

Ravens defensive pressure was acceptable, but also realize they were playing a guy that is tough to bring down 1-1.  I was pleased with their ability to collapse the pocket with 4 man rush and at least force Watson to get it out quickly and work off three step drop route trees, or single the hot WR for a short gain.

 

Texans defense didn't roll over and played much better than the opening week against the Chiefs.  I firmly believe this weeks defense is the one teams will routinely see from the Texans.

I thought we played much better in the second half, when we decided to run at the Texans.

 

I thought there were communication issues on the right side of the line,  The hand off from guard to tackle was lost more than a couple of times.  I think, this was a game we felt the loss of Yanda.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:08 PM

For what I can see as a B- type game, throwing up 33 points on a potential playoff team not playing your best football means this team has greatly improved.

They can stop the run with 7 in the box. They can bait the QB and disguise coverages. They can pass it deep and with accuracy. They can run when given the proper blocking.

O-Line needs to rework some things, but I believe the wrinkles in the game are present and waiting to expose them to the Chiefs on Monday. I bet Fluker starts to get an even amount of reps in practice. Bozeman pulling in the second half and opening holes on off tackle runs is encouraging to see. Brown had his hands full with Watt, but I also believe it was the lack of maintaining the pocket with Phillips and Skura that caused Brown to look bad. Ravens would do well getting more into the screen game or shallow crossing routes to negate the defensive line from putting their ears back and fore borne rushing.

They picked on Averett, which is nothing new, but last season they picked on Carr. You always go for the weak link, but that is easy to accomplish between the 20s and tougher to get into the end zone.

Ravens defensive pressure was acceptable, but also realize they were playing a guy that is tough to bring down 1-1. I was pleased with their ability to collapse the pocket with 4 man rush and at least force Watson to get it out quickly and work off three step drop route trees, or single the hot WR for a short gain.

Texans defense didn't roll over and played much better than the opening week against the Chiefs. I firmly believe this weeks defense is the one teams will routinely see from the Texans.

What are your thoughts on Lamar? 16 carries for 3.4 per is just crazy uncharacteristic for him.

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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:39 PM

What are your thoughts on Lamar? 16 carries for 3.4 per is just crazy uncharacteristic for him.

Actually  13 carries.  There were 3 kneel downs, but your right, he hasn’t had the gash plays yet


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:46 PM


Actually 13 carries. There were 3 kneel downs, but your right, he hasn’t had the gash plays yet

4.2 YPC still isn't right for him. Averaged 6.9 last year. I don’t know, maybe I'm just making too much out of it. Madden curse in the back of my mind and all that.

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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:49 PM

The last one was so so so close to a TD. But that's also the difference between what makes Lamar something truly transformational and what makes him just an elite QB. 


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:50 PM

4.2 YPC still isn't right for him. Averaged 6.9 last year. I don’t know, maybe I'm just making too much out of it. Madden curse in the back of my mind and all that.

 

I'm going to watch some film today of what the Texans did, some of that might have been that guys were sprinting to the outside right away to stop him. If so, it makes sense the Ravens were able to gash them running off tackle and create lanes with the RB. 



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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:50 PM


The last one was so so so close to a TD. But that's also the difference between what makes Lamar something truly transformational and what makes him just an elite QB.

LOL @ Just an elite QB. Love it.
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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:51 PM


I'm going to watch some film today of what the Texans did, some of that might have been that guys were sprinting to the outside right away to stop him. If so, it makes sense the Ravens were able to gash them running off tackle and create lanes with the RB.

Could be both (what other teams are doing AND him not being right). I'm fairly convinced he isn't 100%. Not that I'm freaking out or anything, but I'm a bit worried.

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Posted 21 September 2020 - 12:51 PM

LOL @ Just an elite QB. Love it.

 

Glad someone caught that :P



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Posted 21 September 2020 - 01:18 PM

A lot of teams are deploying a spy safety in the box during pistol formations and it's why you saw two Andrews crossing over the top for +15 yards.

 

Cunningham is no slouch, but I also don't think Jackson is looking to shoulder into the player.  He is limited his contact a great deal, pulling up, diving, etc...  He broke off a couple of nice runs.  I can live with 50 yards rushing a game from him and he was pacing +300 yards passing with 75% completions.  They just didn't need to run him or force him to throw after the Ingram touchdown; it was a slow death for the Texans after that point.  He still had +9 adjusted per attempt, so he was moving in the intermediate to deep zones quite often with success.

 

I thought the 967 combination works well for Brown in the dig route, something that you will see more of...with Duvreney going on the 7 wait for the bait to launch one deep if the safety sucks into the Brown.  This is a combo that Andrews works well on as the its a 876 combo with Andrews crossing the middle finding the second level past the linebackers.  Jackson has hit that three times with pretty touch for chucks of real estate.

 

For not having a what most consider a great day, I will take 75% and +9 adjusted yardage per attempt.  It wasn't always pretty, but it was hardly ever a clean pocket and I remember two deep throws where he could step into the pocket and into the throw, but completed both for +15 yards.

 

As I said previously in spots, I want them to get along the edge more often with other players besides Lamar.  Screens to Devin, Mark, Justice when he returns, Dobbins.  The other thing that I want Lamar to do is check it down in the flat with Dobbins more often.  He would have been 80% completion and might have looked even better because I think Dobbins can beat one on one right now.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 03:55 PM

Wonder if Lamar’s groin is still an issue. 


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 05:04 PM

Could be both (what other teams are doing AND him not being right). I'm fairly convinced he isn't 100%. Not that I'm freaking out or anything, but I'm a bit worried.

So am I.  He just didn't have that 2nd gear yesterday when trying to turn the corner.  Last year, the defenders would have been left reaching for air as he went by.  Just didn't see the explosiveness in his legs.  They never really said what his "soft tissue" injury was but I'm hoping it's not a groin pull because that can linger on for weeks and it's painful.  



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Posted 21 September 2020 - 07:12 PM

All the injury concern is possible or none of it is possible.

 

I think we will soon see that guy.   I think he is playing it close to the vest.  The one play where I thought he had a chance was when the Texan safety made a good play.  Lamar tried to stay with his blocker a second too long.  


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 11:05 PM

 

Put together a short video of Averett's alignments & assignments last year vs KC, just to give an idea of what he may be asked to do. He was mostly lined up outside vs Hardman and Robinson. Most of his action was in the first half. 


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 05:11 PM

All the injury concern is possible or none of it is possible.

I think we will soon see that guy. I think he is playing it close to the vest. The one play where I thought he had a chance was when the Texan safety made a good play. Lamar tried to stay with his blocker a second too long.

I tend to agree. Thinking it's a combo of a minor injury and coaching demanding he avoid some contact as well as some good defensive play.




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