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BSL: Fast Five: Lamar in MVP Form. Browns Doing Browns Things


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#1 BSLMikeRandall

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:09 PM

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Five thoughts on the Week 1 rout of the Browns, and quick hit on the upcoming Texans.


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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:16 PM

BSL: https://baltimorespo...-browns-things/

Five thoughts on the week 1 rout of the Browns, and quick hit on the upcoming Texans.


Ravens blew them out. But they definitely left some major concerns. Hunt and Chubb gashed them a few times. And they had trouble getting pressure at times. A better QB would have hit us up on some of those picked up blitzes.

I think some of this is in part due to it being the first live game. Not many teams have Chubb and Hunt, plus the Browns O-line is actually very, very good. But other than that, no complaints.

Lamar the passer was on full display. Kid can spin it with anyone.


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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:18 PM

Yeah, Baker just isn't very good. Had time. Missed numerous throws.
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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:18 PM

Agreed, I want to go back and watch the battles up front. The Browns have talent on both lines. Was it them being good or the Ravens being bad.

 

Taht being said, gap assignments on run defense looked much improved in the second half. 


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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:26 PM

Agreed, I want to go back and watch the battles up front. The Browns have talent on both lines. Was it them being good or the Ravens being bad.

Taht being said, gap assignments on run defense looked much improved in the second half.



The Browns have a lot of talent. Especially on both lines. I also think teams are going to sell out to stop the run because they are all under the impression that Lamar still can't throw the ball. I think Roman backed off the throttle a little. Healthy Hollywood is going to eat this year.

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:28 PM

I just rewatched the first half broadcast, you can't see a lot of the formations, so I want to see All-22. But Brandon Williams was pushed around like a rag doll. Rarely getting push. Cleveland did good a job just running to the side of the formation where they had the same number of blocks as the Ravens had defenders. And Ravens didn't play gap technique well. 



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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:30 PM

Also, the big cutback run, Cambpell thought he was coming off the field, got all the way out to the CB position, realized he needed to back in. Runs all the way back in, doesn't get set, over pursues to the strong side and that left the hole. That run was pure miscommunication. That one, I'm willing to chalk up to early year rotations and getting the kinks out. 


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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:32 PM

Also, the big cutback run, Cambpell thought he was coming off the field, got all the way out to the CB position, realized he needed to back in. Runs all the way back in, doesn't get set, over pursues to the strong side and that left the hole. That run was pure miscommunication. That one, I'm willing to chalk up to early year rotations and getting the kinks out. 

 

For the record, that was the Chubb 29 yard run. So that's still 4.6 YPC on all of the other 22 runs for Chubb/Hunt. I still want to see more improvement from Baltimore in the run game on defense. 



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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:33 PM

They definitely tightened up against the run the 2nd half

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:37 PM

For the record, that was the Chubb 29 yard run. So that's still 4.6 YPC on all of the other 22 runs for Chubb/Hunt. I still want to see more improvement from Baltimore in the run game on defense.



I think the Cleveland running game can be phenomenonal if they stopped trying to prove Mayfield was a star QB when he's not even close. Hunt and Chubb with that O-line should dominate games. Hopefully Stefanski doesn't figure it out.

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 04:56 PM

Yeah, Baker just isn't very good. Had time. Missed numerous throws.


He's terrible.

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 05:26 PM

He's terrible.


It blows my mind how he could be so dead accurate in college all over the field. And in the NFL he can't hit an open WR with 6 seconds to throw the ball.



Edit: I also love that 2018 will forever be the draft that Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen were the ones taken before Lamar, and Lamar was considered the risky pick.
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Posted 13 September 2020 - 05:30 PM


It blows my mind how he could be so dead accurate in college all over the field. And in the NFL he can't hit an open WR with 6 seconds to throw the ball.

He was making a lot of those throws in '18 too. Wonder if it's confidence or someone in that organization has messed with his mechanics. Maybe he's just super lazy too.
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Posted 13 September 2020 - 05:50 PM

I think the Cleveland running game can be phenomenonal if they stopped trying to prove Mayfield was a star QB when he's not even close. Hunt and Chubb with that O-line should dominate games. Hopefully Stefanski doesn't figure it out.

I was thinking the same thing, especially early in the game.  They should take several pages out of the Ravens playbook and just pound the ball.  Let Chubb and Hunt wear defenses down.  But they're the Browns so you know they'll continue to have Mayfield throw the ball all over the field.  Especially with Beckham and Landry as receivers.  Going forward, teams will just load the box and force Mayfield to beat them. 


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Posted 13 September 2020 - 06:13 PM

I was thinking the same thing, especially early in the game. They should take several pages out of the Ravens playbook and just pound the ball. Let Chubb and Hunt wear defenses down. But they're the Browns so you know they'll continue to have Mayfield throw the ball all over the field. Especially with Beckham and Landry as receivers. Going forward, teams will just load the box and force Mayfield to beat them.



If I'm running that team, I'm trading OBJ for whatever I can get. And then we're pounding the rock 40+ times a game and making teams stop my two top 10 RBs.

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Posted 13 September 2020 - 06:31 PM

If I'm running that team, I'm trading OBJ for whatever I can get. And then we're pounding the rock 40+ times a game and making teams stop my two top 10 RBs.

Makes sense.  They have a solid OL too which should give them even more incentive. 



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Posted 13 September 2020 - 06:58 PM

Ravens blew them out. But they definitely left some major concerns. Hunt and Chubb gashed them a few times. And they had trouble getting pressure at times. A better QB would have hit us up on some of those picked up blitzes.

I think some of this is in part due to it being the first live game. Not many teams have Chubb and Hunt, plus the Browns O-line is actually very, very good. But other than that, no complaints.

Lamar the passer was on full display. Kid can spin it with anyone.

Very pleased with game 1.  I just watched it the second time.  I felt like we went vanilla as we should have, most of the second half.  For a guy who can’t pass, Lamar dropped some serious dimes today.  Damn the man is good.


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Posted 13 September 2020 - 07:00 PM

I thought the Ravens made some real adjustments after the first Q sand made Mayfield try to beat him.  He is not that good, so he was not up to the task.


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 01:02 AM

I was really glad to see Hollywood get off to a good start, the main (only?) positive from the Titans loss was how good he looked


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 05:37 AM

He was making a lot of those throws in '18 too. Wonder if it's confidence or someone in that organization has messed with his mechanics. Maybe he's just super lazy too.

 

It's also the Cleveland effect.  Third NFL season and third head coach (technically fourth if temporary Greg Williams is counted).  Great way to develop a franchise QB.


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