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[TwentyThirtyFive]

It would ease my concerns if I could trust my governments leaders to be forthright, factual, and prepared.

[You Play to Win the Game]

For me, specifically? Not concerned at all. For my extended family/friends? Slight concern. Nothing more.

 

But in the realm of people that (and I think it's been mentioned here) do not have insurance, and will absolutely refuse to foot that bill to get checked (whether it's due to paranoia or not)...you're just making things a ton worse for the rest of us. 

 

I mean, maybe these check-ups should all be free? IJS. 

Super Tuesday is tomorrow - hopefully people vote accordingly.

[The Epic]

Super Tuesday is tomorrow - hopefully people vote accordingly.

 

See I was trying to say that without crossing the line, ya jerk.     

[You Play to Win the Game]

See I was trying to say that without crossing the line, ya jerk.

I figured, with how obvious it was set up. You KNOW I can't help myself.

[SportsGuy]

You guys apparently don’t know what free means.

(Sorry I couldn’t help myself either)

[hallas]

You guys apparently don’t know what free means.

(Sorry I couldn’t help myself either)

I'll settle for free-ish.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Cancel elections in heavily populated areas for the 2020 November election (mail in only) and watch how quickly people speak up about how unnecessary it is.

[McNulty]

Cancel elections in heavily populated areas for the 2020 November election (mail in only) and watch how quickly people speak up about how unnecessary it is.

 

We can quickly pivot to mail in ballots like Oregon does.  

 

https://www.nytimes....ing-delays.html

[Pedro Cerrano]

We can quickly pivot to mail in ballots like Oregon does.

https://www.nytimes....ing-delays.html

So you’re ok if a state like, say, Ohio decides to limit ballots in heavily populated (read: urban) areas?

[McNulty]

I already answered you.

[NewMarketSean]

This is something that should happen. Contain it, and be smart. But there's a TON of going overboard here IMO. And CNN is absolutely shredding Trump this morning for not being more detailed in his address last night. Not helping. And I hate to have to defend Trump, I can't stand the guy.

We're here largely because of Trump's inaction and refusal to believe this should be taken seriously. We had two months of a head-start to deal with it and now we're playing catch up.

[SportsGuy]

We're here largely because of Trump's inaction and refusal to believe this should be taken seriously. We had two months of a head-start to deal with it and now we're playing catch up.

There is zero he(or anyone) could have done to prevent this from coming here.

[You Play to Win the Game]

We're here largely because of Trump's inaction and refusal to believe this should be taken seriously. We had two months of a head-start to deal with it and now we're playing catch up.

Oh I agree - I think this ultimately costs him the election. I really do. But that's different than spending an entire morning tearing him apart because he didn't read off a multi-page travel ban including every finite point in an oval office address that was more about a general message of this is what we're doing.

[DJ MC]

This is something that should happen. Contain it, and be smart. But there's a TON of going overboard here IMO. And CNN is absolutely shredding Trump this morning for not being more detailed in his address last night. Not helping. And I hate to have to defend Trump, I can't stand the guy.

 

The administration is already walking back multiple things from the address that range from exaggerated to untrue.

 

That this is the case is a major part of why we are in the mess.

[DJ MC]

Oh I agree - I think this ultimately costs him the election. I really do. But that's different than spending an entire morning tearing him apart because he didn't read off a multi-page travel ban including every finite point in an oval office address that was more about a general message of this is what we're doing.

 

He hasn't earned that benefit of the doubt.

[You Play to Win the Game]

There is zero he(or anyone) could have done to prevent this from coming here.

He could've banned travel or contained travel much more aggressively, and should've. But doing so would've signaled to the markets a sense of panic and hurt the economy. But by reacting instead of being proactive, the market/economy is hurting even more than it would've. To me, my read on this is Trump views this as an annoyance rather than something that should be taken very seriously (until now, basically).

[NewMarketSean]

There is zero he(or anyone) could have done to prevent this from coming here.

He's done a poor job getting in front of it.

[You Play to Win the Game]

He hasn't earned that benefit of the doubt.

It's completely unnecessary. He's now doing things that should've been done a long time ago. Many Americans are scared, CNN won't miss this opportunity to completely bury him though. 

[SportsGuy]

He could've banned travel or contained travel much more aggressively, and should've. But doing so would've signaled to the markets a sense of panic and hurt the economy. But by reacting instead of being proactive, the market/economy is hurting even more than it would've. To me, my read on this is Trump views this as an annoyance rather than something that should be taken very seriously (until now, basically).

His reaction was the same as yours and mine.

This isn’t that big of a deal to halt everything, cause money losses, etc...

Btw, I’m not defending him. He could have done better. I’m just saying, no matter what he did, it would have made its way into the country. There is no way that this wasn’t going to become an issue in this country.

People just think throwing money at the problem solves things and that’s just not true.

[You Play to Win the Game]

His reaction was the same as yours and mine.

This isn’t that big of a deal to halt everything, cause money losses, etc...

Btw, I’m not defending him. He could have done better. I’m just saying, no matter what he did, it would have made its way into the country.

People just think throwing money at the problem solves things and that’s just not true.

We don't have access to leading scientists, doctors and pandemic experts like he does though. It's excusable for regular Joe's (well, you're regular, me, not so much) to choose not to buy into it all that much, but it isn't for our President not to. But tearing him apart for last night seems vicious to me.