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[Mackus]

The entire clutch argument is a classic issue for stats vs. other things. Some stat people will claim you're not looking at reality, that anything stats can't see doesn't exist. It's basically the same argument that says there is no spiritual dimension to life because science can't see it. So, all in all, it's basically a religious argument.

This isn't even a 'clutch' vs. 'clutch doesn't exist' argument.

This is a "literally anything can happen in 5 PAs and making sweeping statements about a player's qualities just based on that is beyond the realm of rationality" argument.

I'm not saying Teagarden is or isn't a clutch player (though I have an opinion on that which I'll keep to myself). I'm just saying that it's completely impractical to even suggest that you have any insight into him based on just what you've seen him do this season.

[RShack]

This isn't even a 'clutch' vs. 'clutch doesn't exist' argument.

This is a "literally anything can happen in 5 PAs and making sweeping statements about a player's qualities just based on that is beyond the realm of rationality" argument.

It's not abouyt 5 AB's... it's about his 45 AB's vs. his measly 6 H's... and the importance of those 6 hits in helping to determine game outcomes.

As for rationality, when a nobody comes through again and again, it matters a lot regardless of anybody's opinion about what is and isn't rational. There are seasons when guys do that in a way that transcends bogus claims of random... and the way stats work, there is never enough sample size for parametric stats to be able to see something like that. Not dissing stats, just recognizing the truth that there are things that parametric stats are not capable of recognizing. Non-parametric stats actually might be able to recognize it... but that's more trouble than I want to go to...

[You Play to Win the Game]

Catcher Taylor Teagarden caught seven innings in an extended spring game on Wednesday and could be sent out on a minor-league rehab assignment as early as Thursday. http://wnst.net/balt...iple-a-norfolk/

[BSLChrisStoner]

TT came into this game,without a hit in the previous 7 games (20 ab's) he had played. Had his first hit today, threw a guy out.

[BSLChrisStoner]

53 ab's for the season.

 

3 hits yesterday raised his average to .170.