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[BSLRoseKatz]

On a 50 homers pace currently 

[BSLChrisStoner]

On a 50 homers pace currently 

Don't think the contract you suggested earlier this year is going to work.

 

So, which option do you like best: 

 

1) Resign Tony

2) Let him leave, and pencil in Kjerstad and or Mayo

 

I've said many times that I expect Kjerstad and Mayo to eventually get a lot of ab's at 1st and DH, but Mountcastle and O'Hearn still here until they're not obviously.

 

If you figure one of them (probably Mountcastle) is moved... then you have Kjerstad or Mayo in RF, and Kjerstad or Mayo at 1st.

 

 

The other thing which factors overall, is the amount of ab's and games the O's want to give Adley at DH. 

 

 

Speaking just on Tony...  he's got an .851 OPS right now, .779 for his career.
He's a good player.  
He's hitting both LHP and RHP equally. 
He's posting up everyday. 
He's decent enough in RF. 

 

For this '24 team, he's very important, and if you move on from him in the off-season.... you might get production near his career averages in '25, but you can't expect to match his '24 production imo.

[mweb08]

That was a hell of a game he had last night including a great catch.

Thanks Anthony for making my first game back from vacation an enjoyable W!

Also, it's looking like the price of the brick is going up. It would have been nice to have had him locked up going into this season, but that's certainly with the benefit of hindsight (and it could still turn the other way with his streakiness).

[You Play to Win the Game]

Love Taters but definitely warming up to letting him go after the season. Especially if we keep Kjerstad.

 

He gets nuclear hot at times but I've started to call him Tony Poppers because he pops up. A lot. 

 

Kjerstad profiles to be better than Santander in every offensive category...we'll see if the power is there. Santander does seem to be pretty good defensively. 

If he and Eloy combined their launch angle - they'd hit 200 home runs a season.

[BobPhelan]

Extend him for 3-4 years and trade Kjerstad for a SP in the offseason or take the pick from the QO and let Kjerstad take his place. Happy with either but would prefer the first option.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

I think its going to boil down to how we get 2 quality starters this winter. FA signings or trade. But that's a must. Plan how you are going to go after that then you'll know what to do with Tony. But I am with Bob. My plan would be to sign Tony and trade some major pieces for a TOR starter. Because at the end of the day if we don't find 2 really good starters this off-season this team will go nowhere next year.

[Mackus]

Extend him for 3-4 years and trade Kjerstad for a SP in the offseason or take the pick from the QO and let Kjerstad take his place. Happy with either but would prefer the first option.

 

Yeah, all good options with Tony.  Gonna be hard to let him walk after his very own Nelson Cruz type season (if it continues the rest of the way), but I don't think I wanna throw 5/$120M at him which he might get if he has 45 homers.  I think I'm happy with somewhere in the 3/$66M range, very hesitant with a 4th year given how good of an option either Kjerstad or Mayo should be in RF.

[Mackus]

I think its going to boil down to how we get 2 quality starters this winter. FA signings or trade. But that's a must. 

 

I'd prepare for disappointment if you're asking for 2 quality SP.  Unless someone suffers a major injury, expect to see both Kremer and Rogers in the 2025 rotation with Rodriguez and Eflin.  They'll only see one spot that needs filling.  I'm hoping they resign Burnes, but am also expecting disappointment on that end.

[You Play to Win the Game]

I'd prepare for disappointment if you're asking for 2 quality SP.  Unless someone suffers a major injury, expect to see both Kremer and Rogers in the 2025 rotation with Rodriguez and Eflin.  They'll only see one spot that needs filling.  I'm hoping they resign Burnes, but am also expecting disappointment on that end.

Agreed. Which is why I hated the Rogers trade so much. Penciling him in for the next 2 years is just baffling to me. There was zero need to set your sites that low. Unless ownership just isn't going to pony up. Which is something I'm preparing for mentally.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

I'd prepare for disappointment if you're asking for 2 quality SP. Unless someone suffers a major injury, expect to see both Kremer and Rogers in the 2025 rotation with Rodriguez and Eflin. They'll only see one spot that needs filling. I'm hoping they resign Burnes, but am also expecting disappointment on that end.

Oh I expect to be unhappy when it's all said and done. Just don't get how the FO could accept such a low bar as GRod, Eflin, Kremer, Rogers, plus 1. This club is in position financially and with trade capital to do better. Much better.

[BSLChrisStoner]

ESPN: Veteran Anthony Santander showing young Orioles how it's done

https://www.espn.com...ome-run-contest

[BSLRoseKatz]

The up-to-date list of every 40 HR/100 RBI season as an Oriole

[Nigel Tufnel]

Two more HR, and only Mickey Mantle will have hit more homers in a season as a switch-hitter.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

 I wonder how many HRs Walltimore has robbed him on this year compared to some of these other guys on the Os all time HR list. Obviously, not Frank or Gentile

[makoman]

He lost one this year.

 

https://baseballsava...venue?venueId=2

[Nigel Tufnel]

Law's ranking of free agents:

 

17. Anthony Santander, OF

 

Santander picked a good time to have his best year, with career bests in homers (44), walks (58), slugging (.506), and wRC+ (129). It also came with a career-worst BABIP of .225, which was in fact the lowest of any qualifying hitter in MLB last year. He swings hard and is trying to lift everything in the air, which is great when he squares it up but results in a lot of pop-ups as well — probably not enough to explain the horrendous BABIP, but enough to think his career rate of .263 is probably closer to his true talent level.

 

He’s a below-average defender in a corner, at minus-5 total RAA in the last two years, but the power is enough to make him a 2.5-3 win player even if he doesn’t repeat the 44-homer performance. He’s one of the best selections in the Rule 5 draft since the rule changes gutted the talent pool over a decade ago, at 11.1 WAR and counting through age 30. He should get four-year, $20-22 million AAV offers in a weak market for power hitters.

 

Keith Law’s top 50 MLB free agents: Juan Soto headlines a decent overall class - The Athletic

[Mackus]

I'm in on Tony at that price. Would really prefer only 3 years, so maybe a higher AAV can keep it to that.

[makoman]

Bowden predicts 6/142, Law 4/80, those aren’t even in the same ballpark. Take all predictions with a huge grain of salt.

https://www.nytimes....edictions-soto/

[Nigel Tufnel]

Law also predicted something like 5/125 for Burnes which would be in the O's price range, so I assume it's too low (although he later said could see Burnes getting $200M).

 

He should get at least $25 million a year, probably getting five years because that’s typical for a high-end starter even with the injury risks associated with pitching.

[Mackus]

Law also predicted something like 5/125 for Burnes which would be in the O's price range, so I assume it's too low (although he later said could see Burnes getting $200M).

 

Lol, thanks for this context.