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#501 BSLMikeLowe

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Posted 20 April 2023 - 11:16 AM

While I know the Coliseum is a dump, I don't know all the details about getting a new stadium built.  Is this another case of a city not wanting to subsidize a billionaire like in San Diego or is there more to it?

 

I think there is a genuine "want to" among the city leaders to get something done. Their plan called for something like $8B worth of redevelopment around an old shipping terminal. But like I said above, it's tough getting big projects built in California, and the A's (with MLB's blessing) said they're sick of waiting.



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Posted 20 April 2023 - 05:07 PM

I mean, since the turn of the century California has built a ton of new stadiums. Although I’m guessing almost all were privately funded?

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Posted 20 April 2023 - 05:09 PM

I think there is a genuine "want to" among the city leaders to get something done. Their plan called for something like $8B worth of redevelopment around an old shipping terminal. But like I said above, it's tough getting big projects built in California, and the A's (with MLB's blessing) said they're sick of waiting.


Chris Russo had the As president on before and he said the earliest any ballpark could have been completed in Oakland was 2031.

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Posted 20 April 2023 - 05:19 PM

I mean, since the turn of the century California has built a ton of new stadiums. Although I’m guessing almost all were privately funded?


Reading about the 49ers stadium, sounded like it was mostly public financed.  Unlike Maryland, I don't think California has a state level stadium authority.  Santa Clara County formed one to build their stadium.  And I imagine Santa Clara is far more wealthy than Oakland.


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Posted 20 April 2023 - 05:24 PM


Reading about the 49ers stadium, sounded like it was mostly public financed.  Unlike Maryland, I don't think California has a state level stadium authority.  Santa Clara County formed one to build their stadium.  And I imagine Santa Clara is far more wealthy than Oakland.

 

And the 49ers spent a long time looking for somewhere to get a new stadium.



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Posted 20 April 2023 - 05:33 PM

I mean, since the turn of the century California has built a ton of new stadiums. Although I’m guessing almost all were privately funded?

 

The new ones in LA (SoFi and the Clippers new place) were all privately financed. I think the Warriors new place in SF was all private too. Not sure about the Giants ballpark. The 49ers, Padres and Sacramento Kings got some public money, and put up some themselves. The Chargers tried to in SD, but a public vote failed.

 

When I mention how tough it is to build in CA, I'm also referring to how much red tape you have to go through there, overcome pushback from the NIMBYs, and the overall costs of construction compared to other places. Those can be as challenging as trying to get public money.

 

Vegas seems almost completely opposite. They LOVE building new stuff there. The only thing they love as much as building new stuff is blowing up their old stuff.


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Posted 20 April 2023 - 07:36 PM

I had no idea the Warriors had left Oakland. Guess just going to SF isn't that devastating for most local fans, but still surprised that I have no memory of that happening.




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