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#41 Russ

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:20 PM

Results out Wednesday.

#42 Nigel Tufnel

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:21 PM

That guy has a HOF ballot.

 

He voted this year - Griffey only.



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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:29 PM

He voted this year - Griffey only.

 

That's annoying...  The rest of the BBWAA should be ashamed having him as part.



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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:29 PM

Who I'd vote for:
 
Bonds
Clemens
Griffey
Bagwell
Piazza
Schilling
Mussina
Raines
McGwire
Edgar


I like your list but think I would do Walker or Trammell over McGwire if I had a vote. I'll say Trammell for the urgency.

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:31 PM

"@JPosnanski: What if I told you I just recorded more than three hours of PosCasts with @KenTremendous about the Hall of Fame? Would you run screaming?"

I hope this is true.

#46 mweb08

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:33 PM

I like your list but think I would do Walker or Trammell over McGwire if I had a vote. I'll say Trammell for the urgency.

 

McGwire has the same urgency since they lowered the time on the ballot to 10 years.

 

I'm good with either, but wouldn't bother with altering my hypothetical ballot in this case since neither guy will come close to getting in anyway. So in that case, I prefer McGwire due to his dominance with the bat. Walker is borderline for me.



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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:35 PM

That's annoying...  The rest of the BBWAA should be ashamed having him as part.

 

There should be some actual baseball people involved in determining which guys have enough of a clue to get a vote...


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#48 mweb08

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:56 PM

A realistic great outcome would be Griffey, Piazza, Bagwell, and Raines. 

 

That would get 4 very deserving guys in, two of which there is some concern over if they'll ever get the call (especially Raines) and would really do a lot to clear the backlog for next year with Trammell and McGwire also dropping off the ballot.

 

Next year has some good candidates in Pudge, Vlad, Manny, and Posada, but no sure fire guys there and no else to get enough votes to hang around the ballot.

 

However, it will sadly probably just be Griffey and Piazza. 



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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:59 PM

Im still not sure McGwire deserves to be in. 



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Posted 04 January 2016 - 09:07 PM

Im still not sure McGwire deserves to be in. 

 

Due to PED's and/or performance?



#51 DJ MC

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 09:07 PM

That guy has a HOF ballot.

 

That's silly. Everyone knows that bloggers should not have Hall of Fame ballots.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 09:16 PM

Due to PED's and/or performance?

Combo of both. I think he was likely on PEDS his whole career. And as great of a slugger as he was, that was his only value he brought to the table. I know I still would not be voting for him at this point. . 



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Posted 04 January 2016 - 09:26 PM

Due to PED's and/or performance?

Combo of both. I think he was likely on PEDS his whole career. And as great of a slugger as he was, that was his only value he brought to the table. I know I still would not be voting for him at this point. . 


Well I don't care much about the PEDs, but I agree that his resume on performance alone is not overwhelming. Durability and longevity weren't strong suits of his resume. He also didn't bring much to the table besides his bat.

But that bat was special. Best homer to AB ratio ever, 10th in career OPS+, and a ridiculous peak. It's difficult for me to say no to that. I can see not voting for him because there may be more than 10 deserving candidates, but otherwise it's hard for me to convince myself he's not a HOF'er even with how much I value guys having a complete game.

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 09:38 AM

My complete ballot: Bagwell, Bonds, Clemens, Griffey, Hoffman, E. Martinez, Mussina, Piazza, Raines, Schilling.



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Posted 06 January 2016 - 09:43 AM

Seems like he got it right. Lots of people are in the anti-Hoffman crowd because of the saves and saves only but I have no problem putting him in.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:07 AM

Seems like he got it right. Lots of people are in the anti-Hoffman crowd because of the saves and saves only but I have no problem putting him in.

 

I wouldn't vote for Hoffman, at least not with better candidates out there, but I'm not outraged by it. Good overall ballot there.

 

I think I would actually support Wagner more so than Hoffman, even though both are borderline at best IMO.



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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:08 AM

My complete ballot: Bagwell, Bonds, Clemens, Griffey, Hoffman, E. Martinez, Mussina, Piazza, Raines, Schilling.

 

Well, Kenny-boy said something I actually like... more or less (I'm not so sure about Schilling...)

 

I just hope it's not him spreading another dang rumor...   :wink:


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:16 AM

Well, Kenny-boy said something I actually like... more or less (I'm not so sure about Schilling...)

 

I just looked, and I take that back... he's not a no-brainer, but he probably deserves it...

 

I was mainly reacting to the combo of his time with the Desertsnakes plus the damned bloody sock... when that happened, I just knew the combination of those two would probably get him into the HOF regardless, and that annoyed me... but he did enough stuff aside from the postseason to be an OK vote...


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#59 mweb08

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:21 AM

Stark: http://espn.go.com/m...all-fame-ballot



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Posted 06 January 2016 - 11:38 AM

Schilling is the best k/bb guy of all time and was a monster in the post-season.

 

To have him out of the HOF is to make the whole establishment seem worthless.

 

Then again, the HOF is about to say "no thanks" to the second greatest hitter and one of the five best pitchers ever so....


There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

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"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

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