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#621 bnickle

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 06:34 AM

I'm ready for the post Harbaugh era. Let's get a high draft pick this year and retool. Could be favorites the next few years if we do this right.

As you know I've been on Harbaugh's case longer than most. I'm not ready to see him go. We can do better, but we could do a lot worse too. What I do want is to see him have less power over choosing his coaching staff. Too many mistakes, too much loyalty. The three best coaching changes were made for him. Mattison decided to leave here on his own accord. He was made to fire Cam midseason. Hostler was vetoed and Kubiak heavily encouraged. If his ego won't allow smarter football men like Ozzie and Decosta heavily influence his coaching staff then yes he does need to go. 



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Posted 29 September 2015 - 08:53 AM

As you know I've been on Harbaugh's case longer than most. I'm not ready to see him go. We can do better, but we could do a lot worse too. What I do want is to see him have less power over choosing his coaching staff. Too many mistakes, too much loyalty. The three best coaching changes were made for him. Mattison decided to leave here on his own accord. He was made to fire Cam midseason. Hostler was vetoed and Kubiak heavily encouraged. If his ego won't allow smarter football men like Ozzie and Decosta heavily influence his coaching staff then yes he does need to go. 

 

If he doesn't fire Pees, there will be another decision made for him.


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 09:39 AM

I'm ready for the post Harbaugh era. Let's get a high draft pick this year and retool. Could be favorites the next few years if we do this right.

As you know I've been on Harbaugh's case longer than most. I'm not ready to see him go. We can do better, but we could do a lot worse too. What I do want is to see him have less power over choosing his coaching staff. Too many mistakes, too much loyalty. The three best coaching changes were made for him. Mattison decided to leave here on his own accord. He was made to fire Cam midseason. Hostler was vetoed and Kubiak heavily encouraged. If his ego won't allow smarter football men like Ozzie and Decosta heavily influence his coaching staff then yes he does need to go. 


Heat of the moment. But I'm seriously getting there. And I do think he deserves a ton of credit for his tenure here. A historically good tenure. I acknowledge he had a lot of help... but great coaches never do it alone. My reasons are what you stated. He has shown consistently poor judgment with his staff and seems to me like he'd rather have loyal yes men on his staff instead of innovative leaders. That's weak. Despite all his chest puffing macho man non sense.

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 12:32 PM

It's easy to blame Dean Pees for the defensive performances the last 2 weeks but after looking at the all 22, I have a hard time doing that, particularly with this week's game. He put guys where they needed to be and at some point, your players have to play. Your #1 CB can't get crapped on all day, your guys can't keep falling down in their backpedal on double moves, your guys can't keep missing tackles, your safeties can't keep reacting late, your guys can't keep committing penalties to extend drives.

 

What is the alternative defensively? We have deficiencies in the secondary (a lot of which is personnel related), the last thing you want to do is send extra guys more, thus exposing your secondary more.

 

This week, we did some twists and stunts, as well as zone blitzes and they worked. We generated some pressure, had a couple sacks, made Dalton uncomfortable at times. The secondary has to understand what the front 7 is doing and make the proper adjustments to their alignment and assignment. I doubt they're not being coached on this; they need to communicate it and execute it on game day.

 

The flipside, we rush 3 and drop 8. We employed this strategy against Oakland; the thought process being you hope to confuse a young with zone coverage and, if passes are completed, you rally and tackle. Unfortunately, the latter did not happen all that well. But again, this falls on the players.

 

I'm not saying Dean Pees is some infallible coordinator or master strategist but I really don't know what else he can do. Maybe we go cover 2 a bit more and employ some bracket coverage underneath to try to prevent big plays and keep stuff in front of us? But again, if we do that, we have to tackle better, which again falls on the players.

 

At the end of the day, coaches coach, players play and sometimes all the scheming in the world doesn't make a damn bit of difference if guys don't execute for 60 minutes.


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 03:09 PM

Said that before. Not a Pees fan but the players are executing poorly.

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 06:15 PM

It's easy to blame Dean Pees for the defensive performances the last 2 weeks but after looking at the all 22, I have a hard time doing that, particularly with this week's game. He put guys where they needed to be and at some point, your players have to play. Your #1 CB can't get crapped on all day, your guys can't keep falling down in their backpedal on double moves, your guys can't keep missing tackles, your safeties can't keep reacting late, your guys can't keep committing penalties to extend drives.

 

What is the alternative defensively? We have deficiencies in the secondary (a lot of which is personnel related), the last thing you want to do is send extra guys more, thus exposing your secondary more.

 

This week, we did some twists and stunts, as well as zone blitzes and they worked. We generated some pressure, had a couple sacks, made Dalton uncomfortable at times. The secondary has to understand what the front 7 is doing and make the proper adjustments to their alignment and assignment. I doubt they're not being coached on this; they need to communicate it and execute it on game day.

 

The flipside, we rush 3 and drop 8. We employed this strategy against Oakland; the thought process being you hope to confuse a young with zone coverage and, if passes are completed, you rally and tackle. Unfortunately, the latter did not happen all that well. But again, this falls on the players.

 

I'm not saying Dean Pees is some infallible coordinator or master strategist but I really don't know what else he can do. Maybe we go cover 2 a bit more and employ some bracket coverage underneath to try to prevent big plays and keep stuff in front of us? But again, if we do that, we have to tackle better, which again falls on the players.

 

At the end of the day, coaches coach, players play and sometimes all the scheming in the world doesn't make a damn bit of difference if guys don't execute for 60 minutes.

 

 

Problem with Pees is, it hasn't just been the past 2 weeks. It's been since he took over. The talent on defense has carried him this far. But now that we don't have as much talent and depth in certain areas, his ability to scheme and as a play caller are being abused. 






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